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Re1: [zzdev] Re: :zz,unix: Probs running PC ZigZag from Linux
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- Subject: Re1: [zzdev] Re: :zz,unix: Probs running PC ZigZag from Linux
- From: Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 06:31:33 +0900
- Cc: ted@xxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Andrew--
I just don't get this at all.
>> >I also can't see a way
>> >to have the program check itself for wrong line endings before it is
>> >run - you'd have to use another program to do that.
You mean there couldn't be a preprocessor that knows the environment,
takes the ZZ program as data, and fixes its line endings?
ChrzT
At 11:53 PM 9/19/99 +1000, you wrote:
>> At 06:58 AM 7/11/99 +1000, you wrote:
>> >On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 05:02:50AM +0900, Ted Nelson wrote:
>> >> Wouldn't it be possible to have a preprocessor that
>> >> checks the ZigZag file and fixes it for the current version,
>> >> no matter what machine or format it's in?
>> >>
>> >> I think we really need it. The non-interoperability
>> >> is already a great difficulty for me.
>> >
>> >For the Zigzag data, we already do this as much as possible. We can't
>> >convert from foreign formats where we don't have the program that
>> >created the file and thus don't know how to access it. That's why we
>> >have a standard text-based interchange format. I also can't see a way
>> >to have the program check itself for wrong line endings before it is
>> >run - you'd have to use another program to do that. That's why we have
>> >separate Unix and Windows versions of Zigzag. Welcome to the wonderful
>> >world of incompatibility that we all live in.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> > *** Xanni ***
>
>On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 11:17:27AM +0900, Ted Nelson wrote:
>> Okay, so the Windows version can't be recognized
>> automatically. So why can't we give the Windows version
>> a flag that the processor can check for?
>
>I don't quite understand what you're proposing. Can you be more specific?
>
>Cheers,
> *** Xanni ***
>--
>mailto:xanni@xxxxxxxxxx Andrew Pam
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