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:zz: Paired dimensions: Constraint & Conjoinment
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- Subject: :zz: Paired dimensions: Constraint & Conjoinment
- From: Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:20:01 +0900
- Cc: ted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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(A mislaid reply to Mark-Jason from a month ago)
Mark-Jason sez (fuller below):
>... My whole point about `conjoinment' is that I'd also need a
>way to create two dimensions and somehow inform ZZ that they were
>conjoint and that they should get some f the same sort of special
>treatment that inside-contents presently get.
I think that might fit in my idea of constraining
particular dimensions. So particular operations
on these particular dimensions would mandate
particular conjoined operations.
Let's see ================================
(random sample thoughts defining desirable operations):
Put-into
If no contents, starts a contents list (d.contents hanging
as first item in d.inside). If contents alread exist, append
to that contents list.
Show-contents
Rotate chosen window into d.inside/d.contents. Place
cursor on first item plusward in d.contents.
Mark
If appending to old mark, append to that mark in d.marklist.
If starting new mark, create new item in d.mark starting new
list in d.marklist.
Best, Ted
At 09:33 AM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> A lot of the clumsiness, though, is about the present
>> interface mechanisms. If we had a function, "put this
>> in here," and this happened to be the mechanism,
>> would you like it better ?-)
>
>Somewhat. My whole point about `conjoinment' is that I'd also need a
>way to create two dimensions and somehow inform ZZ that they were
>conjoint and that they should get some f the same sort of special
>treatment that inside-contents presently get. I think that this would
>be a necessary part of the improved interface.
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