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Re: [zzdev] Re: editor
- To: zzdev@xxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [zzdev] Re: editor
- From: Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:06:52 +0900
- Cc: ted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- In-reply-to: <19981115232546.5748.qmail@xxxxxxxxxx>
- References: <Your message of "Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:14:06 +1100." <19981116101406.D6106@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Reply-to: zzdev@xxxxxxxxxx
M'Jason saith:
>I would suggest that if the user wants to open a dataset read-only
>then we could provide a cprogram command-line argument that says so
>explicitly. Then they could still use their favorite editor to view
>cell contents without changing them.
Sounds just right.
Best, T
At 06:25 PM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> Suggestion:
>>
>> Instead of dying on no-editor-found we should note to the user that
>> the dataset is read-only.
>
>I don't think it makes sense to couple these two things together.
>They are not related. It makes sense to use the user's favorite
>editor to view cell contents even if they are read-only, and
>conversely, the user can modify a writable dataset with commands like
>`break_link' whether or not their editor makes sense.
>
>Also, suppose you try to start up ZigZag, and you end up in read-only
>mode. You didn't want that, so you set about trying to correct the
>problem. You check the permissions on the file, no, the permissions
>are all right. Maybe you check some other things. But you are not
>likely to think to check whether `emacs' is installed in /usr/bin or
>/usr/local/bin.
>
>That is not the Principle of Least Surprise.
>
>> This lets people frob the choose_editor() function to set things to
>> read-only if they want.
>>
>> Comments?
>
>I would suggest that if the user wants to open a dataset read-only
>then we could provide a cprogram command-line argument that says so
>explicitly. Then they could still use their favorite editor to view
>cell contents without changing them.
>
> zigzag -r file.zz Read-only mode
>
>
>
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