Re: [zzdev] Re: July's wish list (resend)-- There's lots more

[Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>Cut what from where?  In MacWrite, text is on the `page', and `cut'
>removes it from the `page' and copies it to the Clipboard.

Exactly.

I have a lot of documents whose contents I'd like to migrate
 to ZigZag.  Copy and paste (not cut) is the usual tool.
 (For my loathing of the Clipboard as generally constituted,
 see my Web manuscript, "Today's Horrible Computer World,"
 ca. next week.)

>I really thought it was bizarre to see this request from someone who
>hates the `electronic paper' model as much as you do.

Not for the cell tissue, just for the text contents.

ChrzT


At 07:57 PM 11/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> COPY, CUT and PASTE operations.  
>
>Those doesn't really make sense in ZigZag. 
>
>Cut what from where?  In MacWrite, text is on the `page', and `cut'
>removes it from the `page' and copies it to the Clipboard.
>
>In ZigZag, there's no `page' and no global notion of `location'.  Each
>group of cells imposes its own local geometry.  You don't need to
>`remove text from the page'.  You just want to disconnect some cells
>from the group.  The `break link' command already does that:
>
>
>	A1 -- A2 -- A3 -- A4
>	|     
>	B1 -- B2 -- B3 -- B4
>
>Let's `cut' the B cells out of this picture.  They don't need to `go'
>anywhere; all that's necessary is for us to break the link from A1 to
>B1 and they've been `cut'.
>
>Similarly, `paste' makes no sense.   If there are cells, and you want
>to include them in some structure, you don't paste them into place;
>instead, you make a link.  
>
>I already did `copy', but it's not like the conventional `Copy' that's
>part of cut-copy-paste.  With `their' copy, you have to say where you
>want to copy it to.  In ZigZag, you don't copy to anywhere; you just
>copy. 
>
>I really thought it was bizarre to see this request from someone who
>hates the `electronic paper' model as much as you do.
>
>
>
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