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Re: [zzdev] Re: Prez stuff
- To: Tuomas Lukka <lukka@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [zzdev] Re: Prez stuff
- From: Benjamin Fallenstein <b.fallenstein@xxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:51:13 +0200
- Cc: ZZ Development <zzdev@xxxxxxxxxx>
- References: <Pine.HPP.3.96.1000812140339.28807D-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Actually I've realized "presentation" means something else to me than to
you: I don't use the TEXT stuff in Powerpoint so much as the GRAPHICS
stuff -- that is, I make a figure (like in a book), and let it animate.
Like in this presentation about eMail, where I started with a user's
computer, then (on key press, as usual in PP,) grew an arrow to the mail
server, along with text describing the relation, and so on. I think that
kind of presentation is really cool, and hate it to use text-only (I
prefer overhead projectors for that).
As my "presentations" could benefit from zz strux as well, I thought in
that direction... nothing wrong with yours, just miscommunication (b/c
the word has the uncommon association for me). Now MY presentations
could be extended to something that isn't only good for projecting it on
the wall, but which also a user can play with directly. And then we are
at the point where scripting can do fascinating things, like one flob
reacting to what you do with the other.
Anyway, that's not what we can do right now, so forget about it. ;-)
Tuomas Lukka wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Benjamin Fallenstein wrote:
>
> > Tuomas Lukka wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tuomas, do you have time to give a short explanation of how the prez
> > > > module is going to work (what it will be able to do, and how the data
> > > > will be stored -- roughly)?
> > >
> > > Corner lists on d.1-d.2, and connections for cross references on d.3
> > >
> > > I'm considering changing it a lot to accommodate freer lists (nested
> > > points etc).
> > >
> > > Basically, the goal is "more than powerpoint". Not in quantity but
> > > quality.
> > >
> > > > I'm looking forward to using it, and wondering if I can make it
> > > > scriptable with my applitude.
> > >
> > > How?
> >
> > Well, there are two things I would often like in PP: custom animations,
>
> Well, Ted told me once that ZZ was initially born from considering
> keyframe animations. Expressing animation is not going to be a problem,
> especially when most flobs know how to interpolate between two places
> and later (if computers are efficient enough) between looks, fonts, colors
> etc.
>
> > and more sophisticated, interaction with a user (the most simple being
> > custom reactions to clicks on something).
>
> Could you give an example of a really intricate thing that someone would
> *realistically* want to do in a presentation?
>
> > I'm not sure about all that
> > could work with Prez, and I don't have designs hammered out; I'll just
> > look at it when it's finished and see if I get any ideas from looking at
> > it. That works often enough. :)
>
> It's not one of those things that get *finished*, only better. ;) ;)
>
> Tuomas