Re: [zzdev] Killer Apps (was Re: How'd it go?

[Benjamin Fallenstein <b.fallenstein@xxxxxx>]

Ted Nelson wrote:
> Killer Apps IMHO--
> ? file browser
> ? "zzshell"-- encapsulation of commands to simplify *ix commands
> ? explorable 2000-year chronology, including various historical
>  events and one's own appointments and personal history (I'm
>  working on this)
> ? family tree WITH ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS of
>  the living, dates of birth (and death where applicable), addresses
>  where the dead are buried

And killer app in MY humbly opinion: A servlet encapsulating the gZZ
structure, serving HTML pages generated from a to-be-determined zz
substructure, plus programmability by some cellular language (even
though CLANG is way off, we'll have *my* programming system soon; the
two should be compatible).

Editing HTML in *true structure*:
-- being able to follow links back (at editing time)
-- no broken internal links
-- removing a page also removes links to that page, automatically
-- build-in rich visualizations of site structure, not bound to hierarchies

Integrated web application programming in the same structure as the HTML pages:
-- no external programming language with different virtuality concepts
-- no more programs generating the code representing a structure instead
of generating the structure itself
-- programs stored in the same structure
-- data the programs work on stored in the same structure
-- easier to learn and comprehend programming language

Coming soon:
-- client/server editing
-- better versioning

I think this is something many people would jump upon. Finally we may
want to transcend the web: but this is on the same level as your file
browser or zzshell, showing zz's capabilities while maintaining the old
structures for some time, until people have migrated to zz. Also could
be used as a Xanadu-to-HTML converter when ZZ supports U.Green (xu88),
but people haven't Xanadu software yet.

Whaddya think?
- Benja
 


> Others I can't think of at the moment
> 
> ChrzT
> 
> At 06:49 PM 7/20/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 04:28:06AM +0300, Tuomas Lukka wrote:
> >> AJ is a Debian developer so getting into the major distributions will not
> >> be difficult. But we do need a "killer app", like email, to pull this off.
> >
> >Yes, everyone seems to agree on this.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >       Andrew
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