Re: :zz,dictron: ZZ server versus clickable file

[Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Andrew--

An embarrassment of riches.  I scarcely understand
 all the ramifications of these possibilities.

But this one sounds pretty straightforward-- 

>Or the zigzag server could start a copy of your preferred
>web browser and point it at the correct address.  This approach has the
>additional benefit that it allows us to pick a port number at runtime.

Great, let's do that.

(I presume that if the browser is already running,
 it just does this anyway, as when you click a URL
 from somewhere else that opens another browser window.)

ChrzT


At 03:20 PM 6/22/98 +1000, you wrote:
>On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 12:27:04AM +0900, Ted Nelson wrote:
>> You saith (with regards to opening a ZZ file
>>  versus starting a client session, I think)--
>> 
>> >Here are examples of the two kinds of URL:
>> >
>> >http://www.xanadu.net/zigzag/example
>> >http://localhost:5678/
>> 
>> In other words, one URL is a file and the other is
>>  a directory?  Except I've never seen that colon before ...
>
>There's no real distinction in HTTP; either way you're expecting to
>receive a resource (for example, a web page).  The colon is used to
>specify the port to connect to, and defaults to ":80" (the reserved HTTP
>port) if ommitted, which it usually is.  We could set the zigzag server
>up to use port 80 but would want to check if it was already in use by
>another web server first!  This would also prevent users from starting
>another web server on the normal port.
>
>> My question is, couldn't it open for any purpose by
>>  clicking on a desktop filey-looking thing, which starts
>>  the server-push connection?  (I've had server-push connections
>>  started by filey-looking things)
>
>If the "desktop filey-looking thing" represents a URL, as with "Internet
>Shortcuts" in Windows 95+, yes.  Alternatively you could have an HTML
>document which contains a META tag redirecting the user to the URL for the
>zigzag server.  Or the zigzag server could start a copy of your preferred
>web browser and point it at the correct address.  This approach has the
>additional benefit that it allows us to pick a port number at runtime.
>
>Cheers,
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