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:zz: Purpose of ZZ, since you asked
- To: Matthew Denson <mdenson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, zzdev@xxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: :zz: Purpose of ZZ, since you asked
- From: Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:40:15 -0800
- Cc: ted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Reply-to: zzdev@xxxxxxxxxx
(Sorry, got way behind)
>So now for my real questions. I've been able to grasp the mechanics
>of ZZ at least to the point of browsing existing "webs?" (What do you
>call zigzag structures?) Is there an article that I could read that
>places zz into perspective with the rest of your vision?
Nothing I've published, though a superb review
in the Dec98 Dr Dobbs got it exactly.
ZigZag is a conceptual universe without hierarchy
and allowing you to maintain vast numbers of interconnection.
I am proposing it as the nucleus of a new software world,
a world without sequence and hierarchy (except optional).
The traditional File model deeply oppresses us but we
don't see it. (See my article "Tyranny of the File",
Datamation ca 1987-- unforch I have no copy available.)
Also today's software traps us in Application Hell,
worlds that someone else controls, whereas (eg) Unix
has no Applications. I want to make that freedom
available to everybody.
So we will be developing this into various aspects
of a new computer world. Unforch we have few
people and many other things to do.
>What users are the intended target? I mean the www gets anyone results
>without really any learning curve. I think about showing zigzag to my
>boss, and he'd just toss it. But it seems like he should be the target,
>because he is the one who makes me provide data in every viewpoint under
I don't know how to communicate with most people.
I just have to wait for the special ones to show up.
>Do you expect a dba equivalant who maintains the structure and
>provides snapshots? Or a publisher/reader? The thread earlier about
>expense tracking, kind of indicates differently, I guess.
I don't know what a DBA is. This is the cosmology
of a new world. Much remains to be seen.
Theodor Holm Nelson, Visiting Professor of Environmental Information
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