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:zz,lustr: BIG IRON FOR THE SCREEN! A New Year's Plan (bigiron.d5
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- Subject: :zz,lustr: BIG IRON FOR THE SCREEN! A New Year's Plan (bigiron.d5
- From: Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 04:11:36 +0900
- Cc: ted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@xxxxxxxxxxx>, markm@xxxxxxxxxxxx, penrose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I'm lately dusting off some my original, strong ideas
from 1960-1, instead of the compromises of recent decades.
Today (during a very enjoyable phone conversation
with Eric Raymond, which started on another topic),
I realized what should be a near-term goal of all this work.
I happened to remark to Eric that I was very interested
in Beowulf clusters, and want to crank up ZigZag
as a multiprocessor controller for them.
"Why in the world do you need a supercomputer?"
he asked, or words to that effect.
I replied huffily that I could use all the bandwidth in
Christendom on a single interface, if I had the programmers.
And I mean it. I have always wanted plumes and fountains
of text, perspective swooshing ribbons of flying text, NOT TO
MENTION 3d and other animations of more usual kinds.
From time to time in videos I've seen text stuff that remotely
begins to look like what I had in mind long ago-- and more
recently in Web animations, at
These are by John Maeda. He has other nifty animations
at his site
, but these two are my favorites.)
So after the conversation with Eric Raymond this afternoon,
I spent a couple of hours with Chris Penrose, an
electronic-musician-in-residence here, and he did me a
demo-- had me draw a figure in Photoshop on a Mac,
ported it over to a PC, which chewed on it a while and
finally played it as music (interpreting it as a sonogram).
Great software, but took much too long.
And I realized: Jeepers! We REALLY need supercomputers
for our interfaces! Why the hell not? If we can put
a golf club on the moon...
So, thinking further about the matter, I've come to realize
that parallel programming of Beowulf graphics (with enough
generality so folks like Chris could also port audio apps--
at least, as sectional object code) -- this would be an excellent
proof-of-concept for ZigZag parallelism.
So howbout we crank up ZigZag so it *can* do Beowulf
parallel control, and then try to build a high-performance
perspective/LUSTR interface *on top* of ZigZag?
Note that this shouldn't get in the way of any equipment
I may be able to scrounge from Silicon Graphics, since
that ought to go into the cluster too, right? Or would SGI Unix
not fit with it?
There may be snags, but this begins to be what I originally
envisioned Lo them decades ago. So I'm jazzed.
Theodor Holm Nelson, Visiting Professor of Environmental Information
Keio University, Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Fujisawa, Japan
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Quotation of the day, 98.12.02:
Mike McNally, president of the Air Traffic Controllers Union, yesterday
assured the press that air traffic controllers can take over from computers
in case Y2K bugs hit the system.
"I'm not trying to indicate that when our computers shut down that
everything is hunky-dory. There is a major transition period where the
heart is beating and things are happening fast, and people are yelling and
screaming to try to get a handle on it," he said. (cnn.com, dateline